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All that can fall within the compass of human understanding, being either, first, the nature of things, as they are in themselves, their relations, and their manner of operation: or, secondly, that which man himself ought to do, as a rational and voluntary agent, for the attainment of any end, especially happiness: or, thirdly, the ways and means whereby the knowledge of both the one and the other of these is attained and communicated; I think science may be divided properly into these three sorts.—Locke, 
" The use of words to mean something very different from what they appear on the surface to mean.=irony .
The postmodern reply to the modern consists of recognizing that the past, since it cannot really be destroyed, because its destruction leads to silence, must be revisited: but with irony, not innocently. I think of the postmodern attitude as that of a man who loves a very cultivated woman and knows he cannot say to her, "I love you madly" because he knows that she knows (and that she knows that he knows) that these words have already been written by Barbara Cartland. Still, there is a solution. He can say, "As Barbara Cartland would put it, I love you madly." - Umberto Eco.
To know ,learn and understand Gandhi is rather difficult task because he is so simple in his nature , thought and way of action that mostly people fail to understand as their approach is academic ,philosophical and complicated .This seems a little ironical and that can be taken as this .....if one wish to enjoy experience of swimming ,he can not do it with a walk on earth . to say - he will have to go down in water there are prerequisites to go simple , the simplest in your thought and mind to understand Gandhi . This needs a kind of purification and transformation from complicated to simple . Jean-Jacques Rousseau  says that we were born simple but this world made us complicated and this complication in our walk of life has taken the form of our nature to learn Gandhi we need to Relearn ,what we lost in the bad company of society ............Gandhi is simple but we have gone complicated ....we have to purify our hearts and minds and make it clear like water cleaned of it's impurities . Tulasidas in Ramcharit Manas quotes Lord Ram saying - (" nirmal -man -jan so mohi pawa " ) = the only man with a mind free from impurities can go divine and have Me (God)...........Sublimation is the prerequisite to understand Gandhian way (not and never say Gandhian philosophy as he had no philosophy but a life -way -in -action )
Gandhi is a Syntheses , do not try to analyze him . Analyses is the way of science not of life . If we analyze a flower - by dissection we can know it's chemical properties but we loose it's beauty ,colour and scent . This is ,what with Gandhi - he is the syntheses of world religion , culture ,thought , great-men -virtues , way of thinking and living on a screen -base enriched by Indian heritage -found in Vedanta , Bhagwat Gita and Ramcharit Manas . All thoughts he aspires for , are gathered and assimilated with extraordinary tempering from the best ancient brain -men ,the best books and the best culture . He has no thought or philosophy of his own ( he did never claim ,as any thing ' ism ' behind him ) But two things are his own and superb contribution to this world ...1- the great and good syntheses of world thoughts and declared that essence is the same -that it is truth that wins ; that we all men are one origin ; that non-violence is the best way to survive this world and source of happiness ; that love and fellow -feeling is the best way to lead the best life ....2 - And all this thought he strove to bring in action and made his own life as an experiment and succeeded ......he practiced the teachings of Jesus with Christians and taught them lovingly what it was and What did Jesus Really mean of . As a bonus he got India free ,showing the world ,the way of love and non-violence as super weapon .
Some like to find in him great management skill /talent .........they are mistaken ...they are inducting into him  managerial attributes and  into his thought and actions but they need deduction - service not management , service -before self is his way of life . If you try to induct into him political system and political methods ,you will come with a deduction from Ram -Rajya and social justice ,trusteeship and self -discipline in individual life , Gandhi is not a person but a thought and knowledge .......of world's best syntheses in all walk of life and behaviour . Therefore any kind of induction into him as a sure -failure ....yes ! you can deduct many things and thoughts from him ..........One more example - we of these days and our scholars and scientist are looking for resolving Environmental issues but if you visit Gandhi ..pat comes the solution .....follow non-violence (Ahimsaa) and non-hoarding or wealth -negation (Asangrah or Aparigrah) , the basic roots from where environmental issues have grown up and resulted to demonic -threat to modern world .
" Knowledge is indivisible. When people grow wise in one direction, they are sure to make it easier for themselves to grow wise in other directions as well. On the other hand, when they split up knowledge, concentrate on their own field, and scorn and ignore other fields, they grow less wise—even in their own field. '' - Isaac Asimov (1920–1992), Russian-born U.S. author.
"My life is an * indivisible whole, and all my attitudes run into one another; and they all have their rise in my insatiable love for mankind." M.K.Gandhi .
* consisting of one whole whose parts cannot be divided or treated individually .
All humanity is one undivided and indivisible family, and each one of us is responsible for the misdeeds of all the others. I cannot detach myself from the wickedest soul..... M.K.Gandhi.
So , i would like to say  , to conclude - that it is difficult to  learn and understand Gandhi and this difficulty lies in going SOME-ONE EASY and EASIER  to know well of him and also to learn Gandhi as ONE, THE INDIVISIBLE -WORLD - EVOLUTE of THOUGHT and HUMAN LIFE ON EARTH as a whole .

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Comment by GandhiServe Foundation on June 14, 2011 at 9:32
Comment by GandhiServe Foundation on June 14, 2011 at 9:29
Comment by Garvin Brown on June 14, 2011 at 1:18

Dryn your words are a breath of fresh air, I would like to meet with you sometime.





Comment by Dipak Dholakia on June 13, 2011 at 19:54

Brilliant write-up. I fully agree with your comment: "To know ,learn and understand Gandhi is rather difficult task because he is so simple in his nature , thought and way of action that mostly people fail to understand as their approach is academic ,philosophical and complicated."

Simplicity is always difficult to comprehend becuase we always expect something within it. Even in science the simplest model is the best model as it contains all possibilities.

However, Gandhi can be analysed. There is nothing wrong in it but he cannot be separated from his own context, i.e. what he said and did always was a part of the whole. so, it is important to know that you take only a 'part' into consideration while analyzing him, and you are most certainly a loser. because you would be seeing tree instead of wood.

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